Curse

squakMix · Jun 09, 2005, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by Crackerjak

So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.

There's no reason to farm runes anyway - for gold? Why? You already have the best stuff.

Elythor · Jun 09, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

The rune farming situation won't really change, because people will keep farming to unlock runes. (I continue to do that)

And that just means the market of un-IDed rune will expand and people will spend more money to buy that instead.

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Originally Posted by DSHammer

However, I agree with the previous poster that it sucks having to compete with Koreans :P

If you actually pay attention to the WoW messages...during Prime Time it is usually an American guild who wins the HoH. If you want to win then just get better.

velvetbunny · Jun 09, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

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Originally Posted by Eclair

Well, if you've unlocked the Superior Vigor, the trader will sell it XD

Actually the trader was selling several superior runes i have never unlocked. It will only be for sale if someone sells it to the trader i believe.

jomandoor · Jun 09, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

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Originally Posted by Crackerjak

So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.

agree 100%

now im off to play CS insted

.... and 2 think i was just about to buy the collecters edition

squakMix · Jun 09, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

YEa, right; lie your hardest to get people to listen to you

Pharalon · Jun 09, 2005, 12:44 AM // 00:44

The merchant prices, while initially seeded and stocked, depend on supply and demand. The prices will be a little screwy to start off with, but you should be seeing the true market value of runes there. And because the merchant skims off a tidy profit for himself, there's always room for the independant trader to make some money by undercutting the trader. Of course, it will make it harder for people to scam inexperienced players, becuase they've now got a benchmark for rune prices to compare against.

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Originally Posted by Crackerjak

Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so.

I've been PvPing for over an hour a day for more than 9 months now. Still hasn't lost any of its appeal to me *shrugs*

azunder · Jun 09, 2005, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by jomandoor

agree 100%

now im off to play CS insted

.... and 2 think i was just about to buy the collecters edition

But GW is CS in RPG form.

Evan The Cursed · Jun 09, 2005, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Well... I can understand... I mean, 50gp for a minor... that's just sad.

Should have been a minimum price on the trader.

Seems to continue Arena Net's tendency to harm those in a single day without warning. Now my whole bag of minor runes is worth a whole lot less.

Though I can't really complain, since I'm more of a buyer than a seller anyways.

squakMix · Jun 09, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Don't sell to merchants; sell for 10 gp less than the trader.

I personally love this update; it really keeps people from ripping off the noobs with this stuff anymore. I saw a major vigor go for 15k yesterday.

That's the kind of shit they're cutting down upon.

Witchblade · Jun 09, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Crackerjak

So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.

totally +1 to this :/

what's next? free sigil every day? look at towns atm..noobs r on rune traders and happy to see this... pls listen to what we rlly need...not giving noobs what they cant get

Static · Jun 09, 2005, 12:55 AM // 00:55

I hope they fix this rune seller update... theres numerous amounts of people lined up at the rune seller. Last time I checked, I was in Drokanrs Forge, and the rune seller was selling a Major Absorbtion for 19k, and a Major Vigor for 15K. I really think the rune seller addition will ruin the economy and is just going to make GW head downhill and I hope it gets removed.

The Pope · Jun 09, 2005, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crackerjak

So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.

PvP.

I honestly don't care if I have a sword of ultimate destruction or a pointed stick, as long as my opponent has the same thing.

Edit: Witchblade - n00bs? How long have you held HoH? You're probably just a n00b with a lot of spare time, but still a n00b. Do you seriously think grinding proves anything?

osakaaet1 · Jun 09, 2005, 01:09 AM // 01:09

This game was always about inter-guild PvP and never about farming.
There is a Dye Trader and the market for Dye selling has not fallen through...black dyes are still very much sought after even though you can buy them from a trader anytime you want.
If they added a weapon/equipment trader, I wouldn't mind either, just so long as the trader would only sell what people sold to them.

The problem with this farming is that it adds a limitless supply of gold into the economy making it worthless. There would come a stage where superior runes would sell for 120K simply because farmers flooded the game with liquidity.

All I really care about is getting the best equipment and skills for my characters as I can and then work on a strong build for PvP.

Cross Blade · Jun 09, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Im a casual player. the most money Ive had at one time was like 6000 and change and I felt like I was rich. my main character is almost 17th lvl and I havent seen a rune yet. I tried to buy one and the price was over 10000. I dont have a lot of time to play so I really cant do alot of farming. what yall that dont like this patch are saying is that players like me dont deserve to be able to compeat with all the grinders out there. well this game was marketed that you didnt need to play for 10 hours a day to enjoy and be good at it. thats why I never got into the othe other MMOs, in those ones you have to put in more hours than a ful time job to even come close to being powerful.
others might not like it, but I cant wait to get on later tonight for maybe an hour or 2 and maybe get to have fun and improve my character at the same time and not have to worry about not having 20000 gold. if this drives you away cause you cant get rich by overcharging us casual players then your not playing the right game anyways. I dont want to piss anyone off but thats life.

Null · Jun 09, 2005, 01:18 AM // 01:18

I seriously hope everyone threatening to quit because of this does. The game doesn't need any more people selling runes that give 50-60 HP for 80+ plat.

Sleeky101 · Jun 09, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

If you still want to be a rune seller, just sell un-ided ones. You can tell what class and type it is, and I'd bet people would gladly play to unlock runes on their account.

Dreamsmith · Jun 09, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

got 2 mules of runes :/

Really? That's truly sad. One hopes this patch fixes things like that. People shouldn't need or want a mule character, much less multiple mules. There needs to be effective ways to buy, sell, or trade stuff so that people can keep their inventories relatively clear. Traders like the dye trader, the materials trader, and now the runes trader serve that function. Hopefully someday the sigil trader will become useful, too. I'd rather be able to just dump all the runes I don't want somewhere immediately rather than have to pack them all away somewhere awaiting the perfect buyer. I haven't been in the game since the patch, but I'm looking forward to unloading all that crud I don't need, but didn't want to just toss because I know there are people out there that could use it. I have a half dozen runes I had no real use for, now I can sell them to someone who will find someone who wants to buy them, rather than just tossing them in the bit bucket like merchants do.

Madjik · Jun 09, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by Sleeky101

If you still want to be a rune seller, just sell un-ided ones. You can tell what class and type it is, and I'd bet people would gladly play to unlock runes on their account.

Exactly! I'm willing to bet people would actually pay slightly more for an un-ided rune that they need to unlock then for any plain id'ed rune. This doesnt hurt you as much as you think it does.

Vittorio · Jun 09, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33

I highly doubt you'll be seeing superior vigor runes going for any less than they've been going for, unless you find a fool who is selling cheap due to ignorance. The Rune Trader sells superior vigor runes for 100k, so, you can either pay that, or buy it from me for 90k

theclam · Jun 09, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35

I really don't understand why people are mad when they reduce the amount of grind in the game. Now, people can focus more of their time on PvP or mission/quest/exploring PvE, rather than farming PvE.